5 Days Of Trying Holistic Medicine | Try Living With Lucie | Refinery29

5 Days Of Trying Holistic Medicine | Try Living With Lucie | Refinery29


I’m Lucie Fink and this week is Five Days of
Traditional Chinese Medicine. Hey everyone welcome back to Refinery29’s channel into another episode of Try Living With Lucie. Click right here if you haven’t yet subscribed
to this YouTube channel and also be sure you’re subscribed to my personal YouTube channel and are also following me on Instagram @luciebfink for some more behind
the scenes content. And now onto the episode. First and foremost let’s cover the basics. TCM is an ancient system of health and wellness
that’s been used in China for thousands of years. It involves using a ton of alternative methods
and treatments that you will see a little bit later on in this episode. One of the main principles of TCM is that
we all have this qi or this life force running through us and it’s running along various
meridians inside of our bodies. You can think of a meridian almost like an
energy highway. TCM’s primary focus is to just maintain that
flow of qi to make sure that there are no energy blockages. Another main principle of TCM is the yin and
the yang, the concept of dualism, and finding balance between the two of them. The way that TCM differs from western medicine
or conventional medicine is that western medicine has been known to
mainly focus on treating diseases, whereas TCM and other forms of Eastern medicine seem
to focus more so on overall health, overall well-being, and actually the prevention of
diseases. Now before you even say it I know what you
may be thinking. Whenever the phrase alternative health care pops up, people tend
to get a little bit skeptical. So I want to make a preface here and say that
I am not here to make any medical claims.That is not what this video is about. I just know that so many people out there
are interested in learning a little bit more about what TCM is. In fact I actually did a five day challenge
a couple of years ago where I did five days of natural remedies and I sort of skimmed
the surface on some of these TCM practices and it was you guys, my YouTube audience,
that asked me to do an entire deep dive on TCM. So here I am exploring five of these TCM practices
in a safe and professional setting. But just know this video is not intended to
make any scientific claims whatsoever. And now that the air is clear let’s get into
the video. On Monday I met with a holistic health practitioner
to help guide me along on my week. I’m Dr. Shari Auth. I have a doctorate in Chinese medicine. I am a licensed acupuncturist and a board
certified Chinese herbalist. I am also the co-founder and chief healing
officer of WTHN. I started off my five day challenge with acupuncture,
one of the oldest known treatment methods in the world. Acupuncture works via the connective tissue
to send messages to your brain that alter brain chemistry. In the simplest terms, acupuncture involves
penetrating the skin with tiny needles at specific points in the body. Is there anything specific you want to work
on or is it more for prevention. I’m really interested in the acupuncture on
the face for firming and toning and for the collagen production. Okay. Just, I want to look supple. And then I guess the second thing would be
using acupuncture for digestion. I notice you had your gallbladder removed. Yes. Tell me what kind of digestive symptoms you’re
having. I haven’t really had too many post-operative
issues. But in recent days I find that my digestion
is just not good at the moment. Okay. And I’m just coming off of a stomach bug. Oh wow, okay. So anything to kind of fix the digestion. Support your digestion. All right follow me. Thank you. I had done acupuncture one other time in my
life and it was during five days of natural remedies. And, if you remember from that episode I was
lying face down and I started to get a little bit lightheaded. In fact, I almost fainted on the table. So I really appreciated that Shari started
out here by asking me a ton of questions, and also that she devised a custom acupuncture
treatment just for me. She also let me do it face up, which had me
feeling a lot more comfortable and a lot less claustrophobic. Since I had my gallbladder removed and my
digestion could use a little bit of help, she mainly focused on
my stomach region. Got a lot of needles. But no pain, right? Everything’s really comfortable? OK good. And if it’s ever not comfortable just let
me know. And then she also did a glow acupuncture treatment
on my face to boost collagen, calm inflammation, and more. We even added some LED light therapy for facial
rejuvenation. I tried asking Shari to explain to me qi
and meridians and all of the TCM terms but at WTHN they’re trying to take these ancient
TCM practices and modernize them to make them easier to understand in today’s
Western society. So they actually don’t speak about the qi
or meridians at all. Instead they talk in modern scientific terms. Acupuncture works via the connective tissue
to stimulate the release of your body’s natural pain killers, endorphins, and enkephalins. It also increases circulation. So similar to a massage it’s going to loosen
tight muscles. And it’s also a natural anti-inflammatory. And instead she directed me to a ton of modern research studies on their website that
suggests acupuncture’s effectiveness for a whole bunch of different things. Now there’s no way to tell if acupuncture
was effective after doing just one session but I can tell you if you’ve never tried acupuncture
before, it’s a very interesting sensation. It just always feels like something is flowing
through me during acupuncture. Great, great. Yeah it’s from the increased circulation
moving through your body. It feels great Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you. And I don’t know if it feels the same for
every single person, but for me, both times now that I’ve done
it I have felt almost electrified lying on the table. And by the end if nothing else I feel very relaxed. Day two. Massage day. Tui na is a form of Chinese manipulative therapy. It’s hands on and the practitioner might roll,
knead, brush, or rub the areas between each of the joints. And many people do Tui na as a way to reduce
stress, increase circulation, and encourage relaxation. A traditional Tui na treatment might be paired
with something like acupuncture or cupping. But on Tuesday I wanted to try a plain and
simple Tui na massage. Shari, my guiding force for the episode, invited
me to experience this treatment at one of her favorite spots in New York City. I’m going to be doing a Tui na demonstration on Lucie at Modrn Sanctuary in their Pink Himalayan salt cave. These are all Himalayan pink salt bricks and
then there’s a generator that’s going to blow in highly concentrated salt air which is great
for your lungs and great for your muscles. Perfect. The salt room itself wasn’t part of the TCM
nature of the treatment. It was just an added bonus to be in such a
beautiful space that has its own benefits. But Shari being a licensed massage therapist
went through the hand motions of this ancient system of bodywork. Let’s have you face down with your face right
in the face cradle. Bye! And I’m going to start out with a technique
called rolling. It’s just meant to warm up the tissues. Next we’re going to do a technique called
finger spraying and I’m gonna work on Pacific acupuncture and acupressure points. So the next stroke is called kneading. So Tui na means to push and lift and kneading
really demonstrates this really well. There’s lots of vibrational techniques in
Tui na. I’m just using the sides of my hand for this
but I could also use the pads of my fingers. This was a little bit different from just
the standard back massage because there are very specific hand and finger motions and
it’s pretty repetitive. So the same motion is done over and over again
to really target specific areas and muscles. Being in that room was so calming. And by the end I just did not want to get
off the table. I’m going to stay in the salt cave forever. By the middle of the week, I realized that
I had already tried out two separate TCM treatments in two New York City wellness centers. So I really wanted to see if there were any
TCM practices that I could do fully on my own without paying any money or requiring
a practitioner. Enter, Tai Chi. Tai Chi is one of the world’s most graceful
forms of exercise and the best part is you can do it anywhere. I walked over to a grassy pier by the Hudson
River. I kicked my shoes off, opened YouTube on my
phone, and just typed in Tai Chi for beginners, and up popped tons of free tutorial videos. Five minutes long, eight minutes long, ten
minutes long. It’s totally up to you. I just popped in my headphones and did a 30
minute long tutorial. Tai Chi is a series of deliberate movements
performed in a slow and graceful manner all accompanied by deep breathing. It’s designed to improve flexibility and balance and it sort of reminds me of a
meditation practice mixed with a restorative yoga class mixed with some power poses. Now at this point most people have heard of
Tai Chi but another TCM practice that’s garnered a little bit less popularity in the West is
Qi Gong. The main differences between Taichi and Qi
Gong are that Qi Gong is a little bit less complex. There’s typically one movement that’s repeated
and sometimes it’s very little movement at all. Instead it mostly just focuses on breath work. Shari actually had a video where she was teaching Qi Gong so I followed
her tutorial and just flowed by the river. And of course as soon as I was finished with
this activity the moment we cut the cameras a bird pooped right here on my arm. I think because I had just done 30 minutes
of breath work and relaxation I was not nearly as stressed about the bird poop as I would’ve
thought I’d be. Our production assistant had a napkin on hand
so I just sort of gently handed her my wrist as she swiped the poop off of it. But I wasn’t frantic at all. It was a calm and gentle bird poop removal process that
I can only attribute to my 30 minutes of Qi Gong. On Thursday I knew it was time to link up
with a doctor from China. Someone who has actually pioneered some of
these TCM treatments and began their practice in China. I did a quick google search to find practitioners
in the New York City area that fit that criteria and that is how I found Dr. Wang. On Thursday I went to his office in midtown
for cupping therapy. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. How are you? Good, how are you? Good. So you’ve practiced cupping in China. Since 1982. I wasn’t even born yet. Cupping has been practiced in China like twenty
five hundred years. The cups are typically made of glass bamboo
or silicone. A lot of the modern cupping centers use the
plastic cups because they want to minimize the risk of any glass breaking. But Dr. Wang does this in the authentic Chinese
way using glass cups. He starts off by burning a flammable substance either alcohol herbs or paper. He briefly puts the fire inside of the cup
and then he places the cup directly onto your skin to form a suction as the air inside the
cup cools. Your blood vessels expand. Blood is pulled to the surface, and you’re
basically getting giant circular shaped hickies. The cups are left on for different amounts
of time depending on what your practitioner thinks you need. Also leaving the cups on for longer will likely
lead to longer lasting marks. Dr. Wang stepped out of the room briefly to tend to another patient. So I was left lying there on the table with
the cups in my back. This procedure doesn’t hurt and honestly feels
like more of a pressurized massage. But I will tell you the cups felt very tight
on my back and it did make it kind of difficult to move. So as Dr. Wang stepped out I had a really
bad itch on my nose and I was trying to move my arm to scratch my nose but I couldn’t move
my arm because my shoulder blades were so tight from the cups. It feels so weird I can’t move. So my production assistant, yes the same one who had previously wiped
the poop off my wrist, came in to rescue me again and scratched my face for me. When Dr. Wang came back he removed the cups and I was left with some lovely circular cupping marks. People who do cupping therapy regularly claim
it helps with pain inflammation blood flow relaxation and well-being and also that it’s
kind of like a deep tissue massage. Back when I did five days of natural remedies I spent an entire day at Remedies Herb Shop in Brooklyn and basically got a crash course in herbal medicine. We focused on nourishing herbal infusions
or in other words a hibiscus iced tea. And we also made a lavender and lemon balm
infused honey. There are so many different herbs used for
healing all over the world. So for my final day of TCM I sat down with
Shari since she’s a board certified Chinese herbalist and I learned a little bit more
about these plants. Chinese herbology is a part of Chinese medicine
and it’s one of the oldest medicinal forms in the world. This is our line of organic Chinese herbal
formulas. And they’re for everything from energy to
stress, digestion, and sleep. Which of these herbs would you recommend to
me? The first one is gut check which has a lot
of herbs that increase digestive enzymes in the body and it helps you metabolize food. You mentioned something for stress. Yes. Which one should I do for stress? So, run the world. Run the world is really great for both kinds
of stress whether it’s anger based stress like irritability and frustration or fear based
stress like anxiety. Herbs are basically all different plant parts
that have different therapeutic properties. There are roots and stems, pearls and shells,
fruits and seeds, mushrooms and branches, and leaves. And at WTHN they combine various formulas
of these Chinese herbs and put them in tablet form. Each tablet being used for something different. They have one for stress management one for
an energy boost one for bloating sleeping and so much more. Their herbs are 100 percent organic. They’re tested for quality and potency and these are
things that are very important to look at today before taking any herbal supplements. These five TCM practices that I focused on
this week are not the only ones out there. There’s Moxibustion the process of burning
dried herbs and in some cases applying them directly to the skin. Although that technique is not used that much
anymore because it can be really painful and cause scarring. There’s also an entire school of thought out
there surrounding Chinese nutrition focusing on the five tastes. So if you’re interested in learning more about
that there are tons of books you can get all about TCM and nutrition. Now I want to know if you’ve ever tried any
of these TCM practices so comment below to let us know. And if you haven’t, comment and let us know
if you’re interested. Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed learning more about traditional
Chinese medicine and also let me know what topic you want to see me explore next time
on Try Living With Lucie. See you then. Hey YouTube! Thanks for watching Five Days of TCM. Click here for another video in the five day
challenge series, right here to subscribe to R29 on YouTube, and right here for my personal YouTube channel. Be sure to follow me on Instagram @luciebfink or behind the scenes. See ya!

89 Replies to “5 Days Of Trying Holistic Medicine | Try Living With Lucie | Refinery29”

  1. I have no idea what this lady doing ? That’s not how my grandpa does . He is Ph.D herbel medicine and acupuncture. I wonder how much she charges . It Looks like bullsh*t to me .

  2. I'm down with all of this. I've done acupuncture when I was 17 and learning further about it has done so much for my growth and well being.

  3. This is a great video but I suggest adding Chinese characters when introducing a method, say for example, tui na is written 推拿 and tai chi is 太极拳 etc. Its just being extra mindful of the culture.

  4. The pills in the end is a new form of Chinese medicine. Traditional Chinese Medicine would usually involve directly boiling the herbs and drinking the resulted soup, which is usually quite bitter. I really appreciate the effort put into this video. I just wish it could be even more authentic

  5. I grew up doing Tai chi & teaching me about yin & yang because my dad has the same values. I am grateful he did because I have learned so much & now that I am an adult I 100% agree & see how amazing & helpful.

  6. Next we are going to purchase illegal poached rhino horns, grind it up and use it to cure cancer. After that we will sit still for a few hours in order to cure ourselves of depression. And then we are going to sip on some goat milk mixed with aristolochic acid to cure my ingrown toenail.

    Traditional Chinese "medicine" is not backed by evidence based research and is the 21st century version of snake oil. It is a harmful industry that is one of the leading causes of the endangerment and extinction of rare species and not only does not help the human body but in most cases, like the Chinese emperor who drank mercury to live forever, is detrimental to overall health. Honestly the claims made by "specialists" in the field are as problematic and as wrong as those "doctors" in Africa who hunt down and murder albino people in order to use them as medicine and good luck. I have no issue with people using the practices that do not have a negative net impact on the world (like cupping) but saying it is "medicine" is not only laughable but objectively false.

  7. Once a bird popped on my food and ate the food and I didn’t know till my brother told me the the bird pooped on my food and then I threw up all of the food

  8. As much as I appreciate this video, I wish all the people were Chinese as well. It might have been more appropriate to get people that might be more knowledgeable about the culture from a personal standpoint.

  9. I regularly get acupuncture and have never felt this current feeling, Lucy describes. It has however helped me in more ways than one, and helped my dad who was a skeptic with chronic back pain he’s had for over 30 years.

    I think the key to acupuncture is going to some one reputable and being very communicative with your acupuncturist of everything that’s going on with you.

  10. Kinda disappointed the video is on traditional Chinese medicine and all but one day was a white owned business being featured and positioned as the expert. I find it hard to believe that in the multicultural hub that is New York City there wasn’t multiple TCM practitioners that could have been featured in this video

  11. My friend cut her finger. Her Chinese parents told her to put black peppers. She called me in tears saying she can't stop the bleeding and the moment I heard about the black peppers, I was like, "… just go to the hospital." xD!

  12. I would love if Lucy went to China and got these again from traditional practitioners.

    Not discounting these people’s expertise, but I would love to see the difference between the two

  13. Wow. I really enjoy Try it w Lucie eps but this one was so disappointing. She consulted the same white lady most of the week and barely gave the one Chinese doctor any screentime. I'm Chinese and know how effective TCM can be so I'm face palming. Really starting to doubt the legitimacy of all of Lucie's videos now.

  14. Yet another example of white privilege. Being able to learn from Chinese culture and profit from it, while taking up spaces from communities of color. As a host, it would've made sense to source experts who were actually Chinese that could speak to each method, the history and the culture, while promoting POC owned businesses.

  15. When she said that With In was trying to modernize TCM practices (around 4:33) that was disappointment because the video isn't about actual holistic Chinese Medicine. I was excited because I thought this video would give more insight into authentic Chinese Medicine, not the modernized versions. Not hating on With In, the title is just misleading

  16. This is in poor taste. If you're gonna do a video on "traditional Chinese medicine". Actually go to the source and feature them

  17. ah yes the gentrification and white washing of poc traditions, cultures, and practices. again. not surprised but thoroughly disappointed. there is no reason as to why you wouldn't/shouldn't highlight people from these cultures that you are using for your views. you only showed 1 poc from this culture/tradition for 2 minutes. this was done in poor taste.

  18. Random fact: cupping was actually practiced and development separately in other places in addition to China, such as Egypt, Persia and what is now Russia.
    That being said, it has no proven health benefits, it hurts a lot and might cause blood clots, so be careful and talk to your medical professionals before attempting this.

  19. If this is a video about traditional Chinese medicine then why did the white lady get more screen time then the Chinese doctor? in fact, why would you choose someone non-Chinese to discuss traditional Chinese medicine? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

  20. "Chinese medicine" -> white lady gets more time on screen than the actual people who have used these methods for literal centuries…

    It would be nice to ask the people who were born and raised around these methods instead of listening to someone who's an outsider to the whole thing

    Asian people and Asian women particularly have absolutely no exposure and no representation, it's disappointing to see that even when talking about their own practises you'd rather listen to someone white again

  21. You used an ap to Tai Chi instead of going to Chinatown? Old Chinese folks are in the park every morning getting their Tai Chi on. They would have been thrilled to show you. This made me sad

  22. When I dislocated my knee my physical therapist used cupping on my knee and I felt instant relief. It was really cool and I definitely think everyone should try it.

  23. I kinda do agree with the rest of the comments. Overall a very interesting video but there's a lot of things that are missing.

    Being half Chinese, I'm more aware of everything TCM related. For example, I would have loved seeing Lucy go to a TCM doctor that would have listening or felt her radial pulse before doing acupuncture, instead of just asking questions about what she wanted to work on.

    In my opinion it's a great video for an brief and simplified view for the large public on TCM but doesn't show the overall and multidimensional aspects of this type of medecine.

  24. the title of the video is misleading, this is a modernized approach to it, and I suggest you utilize actual asian practitioners.

  25. Western medicine does focus on overall well-being and preventing a number of diseases. But people will hardly ever visit their doctors unless they are sick. I'm a pediatrician and even parents won't bring their kids for regular checkups or follow advice on better eating habits or tips on how to avoid getting sick during the winter months etc. Then you have the whole vaccination issue. And adults are even worse at getting seen regularly by their primary doctors just for a check up unless they get really sick. Western medicine isn't all about pills and needles and surgeries. That's just the way most people see it

  26. The Wthn company seems to be white washing TCP. I don’t think it’s right to just pick and choose the parts of the practice you like and transform it into something that can be more excepted by westerners when they are the ones looking to benefit from it.😕

  27. i like watching living with Lucie and when i first watch her she looks like Miley Cyrus tho

    maybe just me who think that 😂😅

  28. I'm kind of disapointed that this video was just losely based on tcm. I think its really important to honor the traditions and culture behind ancient medicine even if it evolves and modifies with time its not ok to take it and make money of things you dont believe in.

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  30. Great job! Thank you so much Lucie! What a wonderful team! I really appreciate that they are trying to spread TCM knowledge to the world. TCM is really great stuff which can help many different diseases and conditions in the relatively simpler, safer method almost without any side effects if you go to a good and licensed practitioner. Nowadays, it is more crucial to let everybody know what TCM is about because this country is facing opioid drug crisis which killed more than 190 people every day in 2017 https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/index.html .TCM, especially acupuncture, can help this. That is why major American medical and scientific institutes and academies
    suggest the use of acupuncture, etc. to combat this escalating number.

  31. "Let's make a video about Chinese medicine. Don't worry we aren't making any scientific claims. I like this form of Chinese medicine because is it's more westernized and uses scientific terms." This video is so problematic. Not to mention it's eastern medicine. Not Chinese medicine.

  32. The pink Himalayan salt is taken from Pakistan where men work long hours and are paid pennies for it. Glad you're enjoying it. You're worth more, obviously.

  33. I'm surprised she had to ask her so many questions. When I go to my TCM doctor, he looks at me, looks at my face, tongue and feels for my pulse and already knows what problems I have. I don't usually have to say much about the problems I'm having.

  34. I really love that this video is featuring Traditional Chinese Medicine. However, it would have been better if the practitioners featured were actually Chinese.

  35. It would've been really easy for Lucie/Refinery to incorporate more Chinese people in this, with a different perspective than a white woman with a degree- like family traditions/knowledge, etc. There are so many grandmas/grandpas who practice tai chi everywhere. They practice in large groups, all together- and including Chinese experts in this would prevent incorrect pronunciation, too.

  36. 5 days of herbalism (calming teas, different useful flowers, or growing a soothing herbal garden)…or 5 days of learning about Chocolate or Cacao

  37. New York City has many Chinese neighborhoods (Chinatown, 8th Ave Brooklyn, Flushing) where TCM practices are ingrained in daily life… it makes me feel like there was some inherent biases that kept the production away from digging a little deeper for better Chinese or Chinese-American representation.
    This video is titled 5 days of holistic medicine, but it narrows in on Traditional Chinese Medicine, which is okay. But in doing so, why did it remove the "traditional" part, totally disregarding the history, culture, and meaning behind TCM. Only focusing on ONE female practitioner (and she doesn't discuss "chi") seems like a narrow lens.

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