Alternative Medicine Advocates Overdose On Psychotropic Drug

Alternative Medicine Advocates Overdose On Psychotropic Drug


29 PEOPLE WERE DEALING WITH
MEDICAL ISSUES AFTER THEY OVERDOSED ON A BANNED SUBSTANCE
IN GERMANY. THE SUBSTANCE IS KNOWN AS 2C-E,
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUN SUBSTANCE. IT IS A PSYCHOTROPIC SUBSTANCE
WHICH HAS BEEN ILLEGAL IN GERMANY SINCE LATE LAST YEAR
AND IT COMBINES THE EUPHORIA OF ECSTASY AND MDMA,
WITH THE HALLUCINATORY EXPERIENCES OF LSD. THESE PEOPLE DON’T BELIEVE IN
CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE, OR IF THEY DO THEY ALSO BELIEVE
IN HOMEOPATHIC OPTIONS. SO THEY GET TOGETHER AND THEY
ARE TESTING THINGS OUT. RIGHT NOW IT IS UNCLEAR AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT THE 29 VICTIMS REALLY KNEW WHAT
THEY WERE DOING. THEY OVERDOSED ON THE
SUBSTANCE, RIGHT? THE 29 PRACTITIONERS OF ALTERNATIVE
MEDICINE PARTICIPATING IN THE CONFERENCE, AGED 24 TO 56, WERE
FOUND STAGGERING AROUND, ROLLING IN A MEADOW, TALKING GIBBERISH
AND SUFFERING SEVERE CRAMPS.>>I LOVE THAT DESCRIPTION. MY
FAVORITE IS ROLLING IN A MEADOW.>>THAT SOUNDS SO FUN
EXCEPT FOR THE CRAMPS.>>
I KNOW. I WILL TAKE THE CRAMPS. IF I’M HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME
THAT I AM ROLLING IN A MEADOW AND I DON’T GIVE A DAMN. SIGN ME UP FOR SOME OF THAT
HOMEOPATHIC STUFF. THE REST OF THE HOMEOPATHIC
COMMUNITY IS SUPER PISSED.>>WE DON’T KNOW IF THEY WERE
FULLY INFORMED ON WHAT THEY WERE TAKING. IF YOU’RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING
IN YOUR BODY, AT LEAST BE EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT
YOU ARE DOING. BUT LOOK, NO ONE DIED
AND IT SEEMS FUN. I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD NOT
HAVE BANNED THE SUBSTANCE.>>IF THIS IS WHAT HOMEOPATHIC
MEDICINE IS ABOUT, INTERESTING. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY IT. YES, OUR GERMAN VIEWERS HAVE
CORRECTED ME ON THAT WORD.>>SO YOU HAVE A MIRACULOUS
WEEKEND OFF, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN JOIN IN ON THE FUN.
YOU CAN TAKE THE SUBSTANCE. YOU DON’T KNOW HOW IT’S
GOING TO AFFECT YOU. YOU JUST KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
THESE 29 INDIVIDUALS. WOULD YOU TAKE IT?>>NO, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT THEY
TOOK IS ACTUALLY DANGEROUS AND THEY COULD HAVE HURT
THEMSELVES SIGNIFICANTLY.>>THEY MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A
CHARLIE HORSE AS WELL.>>THE COPS COULDN’T EVEN TALK TO
THEM FOR A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME, IT SEEMED LIKE DAYS BECAUSE THEY
WERE SO DAZED AND CONFUSED. THAT IS TOO MUCH RISK. BUT YOU CUT THE STEM BASED ON
PERCENTAGE, INTERESTING.>>I WOULD TOTALLY TRY IT.
THERE IS NO QUESTION. MAYBE NOT IN HIGH DOSES,
OBVIOUSLY. BUT I WOULD TRY TO IN A
LOW-DOSE. I WOULD SEE HOW I FEEL.>>I WOULD BE CAREFUL IF A
GERMAN DUDE WALKED UP TO YOU.>>MAYBE, YOU ARE RIGHT.>>THAT IS A PROBLEM YOU NEVER
KNOW THE DOSAGE OR WHAT THEY PUT IN THERE. IF DRUGS WERE LEGAL,
I WOULD DO MORE.>>IF YOU LEGALIZE IT AT LEAST
THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN EXPERIMENTING WILL KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN THEIR BODIES.
I WOULD LOVE THAT. HERE’S THE THING, MOST PEOPLE
WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER IT IS LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAVE
AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, IF IT IS UNREGULATED
AS POSSIBLE, AND IF WE CAN GET IT FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE.>>IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE DOSAGE
IS AND YOU ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT DYING, WELL,
THAT IS A PROBLEM. NO, THAT IS THE SOLUTION. THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE NOT
GOING TO OVERDOSE FROM IT. SHOULDN’T YOU BE
HAPPY ABOUT THAT?

100 Replies to “Alternative Medicine Advocates Overdose On Psychotropic Drug”

  1. Why is the Red Cross involved? Don't they have like regular ambulances in Germany? Do you have to rely on a charity organization if you need first aid?

  2. ooooooh Cenk and Ana think it would be sooooo fun. They have no idea what its like to experience a strange psychedelic research chemical. especially if its DOM or DOB. yeah its gets a little rough

  3. Suicide Pact! After it was incontrovertibly proved that homeopathy is just so much bunkum.
    They upped their usual dose from nano-grams to Milligrams 😂😂😂😂😂

  4. The quality of cannabis has been significantly raised by legalizing it. Kids in a not too distant future won't know what stepped-on Mexican brick weed is and that's a GOOD thing.

  5. Pharmaceutical Companies= poisoning the World for PROFIT !! There are natural cures, but there isn't any MONEY in keeping someone HEALTHY !!!

  6. Divide & conquer is the game, doesn't matter if it's left or right, we are the human race, but fuck these propaganda ass pedophiles

  7. Ha, this happened about an hour from where I live. The entire german press took a day off to make fun of them.

    Btw Cenk, it would be "Schluck das, das sind Vitamine".

  8. Yet the USDA approves pharmaceutical medication's that kill over 100 thousand people per year in America and has done so since the year 2000 on. "Look it up for yourselves" But the Dung Turds wont care to play that fact off like its a joke. They know who their supporter's and contributor's are. And they better or they will loose their funding and most importantly their paychecks.

  9. It's apparent that there are many Big Pharma paid trolls, on this one. Just look at how many cancer cures there have been that have been proven to work, but are not FDA approved treatments…

  10. Your propaganda and lies are so pathetic. "Alternative" medicine.
    Because we've been brainwashed to believe the medicine humans have been using for thousands of years is "alternative"
    Fuck your drugs! Why don't you say how many millions of people die each year from your "conventional" drugs?!

  11. Some people die because malpractice/misuse of medication/a negative reaction to a controlled substance= BIG PHARMA AND THE ILLUMINATI WANT TO ELIMINATE 98% OF THE PLANET AND CUZ THEY WANT TO PROFIT OFF SICK PEOPLE! MEDICINE IS A LIE! EAT THIS HOPPI HOPPIE TEA AND BUMBLEDANDLE CONCOCTION AND IT WILL CURE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BECAUSE SOME GUY ON THE INTERNETS SAID SO!

    I have no fucking hope in humanity anymore.

  12. 2C-E is alot like MDMA if im not mistaken.. was made in the 80's when they banned MDMA and then they banned this drug too. its not fucking dangerous they didnt overdose… they were just high as fuck. the problem with this drug is its totallly synthetic compared to MDMA witch is only a semi-synthetic

  13. TYT: are you using the term homeopathic as a synonym for alt med? It doesn't seem like you know anything about homeopathy. The active ingredient in homeopathic remedies are virtually 0%, it's so diluted – they're almost always sugar pills. The amazing James Randi used to intentionally take an overdose of homeopathic meds before a show to demonstrate how BS they are. Check out the skeptics dictionary for starters.

  14. I was at a music festival this weekend took a pill of E, and a hit of acid, and was doing all these things except for the cramps. Maybe they shouldn't be mixing the two in the same pill?

  15. The chemical is called 2C-E not 2E-C.  It is in a series of mescaline analogs including 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-T7 among others, they were first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin, the creator of MDMA.

  16. at first i thought they all died and that you guys were just laughing at a tragedy i was about to say wtf is wrong with you ! lol they were all just really high lol

  17. How is this a story? A few people got really high on some 2c-e and they happened to be homeopaths. I'm assuming they didn't take it as homeopathic medicine, because the filosofy of homeopathy is based on the principle that a diluted form of something that causes the same symptoms as the desease, will cure it.
    Even if they were trying to cure some condition they all shared that already had them hallucinating, rolling in meadows, cramping up and talking crazy, they would'nt have overdosed because it would have been diluted so much that the drug would have had no effect.
    At least now they can tell their fellow homeopaths not to look into this drug, as it clearly has an effect on the body, unlike actual homeopathic "medicine".

  18. the problem with what TYT is saying here is that even if you know what the drug is 98% of people are not qualified to do nessary work to find out that drugs effect on the body. Good example in my research I have found that many people over dose on Weed, it gives something like 4-5x higher chances of hart attack in the hour after usage. But this took at least 15hours of work to find out.

  19. So the problem with drugs like this is that they are illegal. If all drugs were legal, then we would know the effective dosages of all drugs. Now, the big problem I had with her analysis was the 'Regulated' part… honestly, the government regulating drugs is like the South and Central American Drug Cartels regulating drugs… its NOT done for the good of the people taking the drugs… its always done for the good of the drug makers. We don't need government regulations… we need independent labs testing drugs and making up reports much like consumer reports. If I want to know the safety of a car, consumer reports is where I go… not some government bureau that gave the car company its rubber stamp of approval. Private consumer report labs that take no advertising money and only exist by subscription would flourish (because everyone wants to take safe drugs for health or entertainment reasons). Government can't be trusted because government was bought and paid for long ago.

  20. 'Sounds like a fun substance'. 2c-e it is considered in the psychedelic community as one of the more powerful, less euphoric, more mind warping psychedelics, it can take people to some difficult places. It seems some idiots didn't know what they were dealing with and the fact that the drug is active at a relatively low dose. I don't know where they got the idea that it's like mdma, because it acts on different receptors in the brain, basically no psychedelic is like mdma, that's why mdma is an empathogen NOT a psychedelic, it's like comparing cannabis to speed.

  21. "the 29 practitioners of alternative medicine participating in the conference, aged 24 to 56, were found “staggering around, rolling in a meadow, talking gibberish and suffering severe cramps” outside the conference hall"

    So now we know what they were like before they took the drugs, what happened to them afterwards?

  22. found rolling in a meadow?…they were just high! Awesome!!!! 🙂 As far as not wanting the info out there so people can try these substances safely, I don't think they want people feeling confident about trying these experiences or maybe even surviving to tell others about these experiences.

  23. did i not just watch a video of these two against oxycontin…..a drug that used correctly hurts no one, lets people who are crippled up in pain have a little better quality of life , a video calling on big pharma to stop producing opioids cause ana thinks everyone gets addicted immediately…..but here they are laughing, sure i would try a drug if i knew the dosage was acceptable and let me roll in a meadow, without a study about chemical dependancy. the same two who said they refuse to let the government in thier heads telling them what they can and cannot do with thier bodies ei.-death with dignity.oh yeah, the same video they fluffed over the health effects of the drugs tobacco and alcohol compared to drug addiction. its okay, screw the guy that has the need for pain relief (drug addict) as long as i can buy my smokes and beer at the corner store….just sayin

  24. Non-story story. Can we talk about the fact that medical care is the 3rd leading cause of death…106,000 of them a year being from adverse side effects?

    Few alternative medicine advocates taking too much psychedelics isn’t really news

  25. 2C-e is so not homeopathic it's more just a research hallucinogen, not that I care about homeopathy. I skipped 2C-I or 2C-b when my friends were, but they all loved the shit. I'll stick to LSD and DMT myself probably, when I wanna get weird.

  26. It's easy to see what happened.
    One of the people who attended the meeting had previously touched the substance and hadn't washed their hands properly. They then prepared drinks for everybody and the trace of the drug on their fingers was diluted down until it became really powerful thus affecting everybody else.
    They were lucky, if there had been more people there, the dilution may have been greater leading to fatal overdoses.

  27. This is what happens when homeopaths tries to get the right dose of a substance. 'Oh hell… we just take a bucket of it …less potent that way, much safer….'

    Morons.

  28. homeopathy is literally the pseudoscience of diluting something to make it stronger. literally its like throwing an aspirin in a lake and taking the water and claiming its stronger its a scam

  29. probably cramping from lack of water,could be dangerous if your kidneys are damaged.
    surely one amongst them recognized that they were tripping?
    and anna, no its not fun if you dont know you are about to trip, especially if you arent used to it, idiot.

  30. Please, TYT, do your research and report these stories correctly. I don't know what this people took, but it was certainly not homeopathic. Had it been so, they wouldn't have suffered any effects. That's precisely the thing with homeopathy. Don't report this story like they took some homeopathic medicine and something happened. That's scientifically impossible.

  31. This story has been around for a while, and i am surprised Ana didn't pronounce it correctly. Thought Ana would be edgy and onto it enough to have sampled a good few substituted phenethylamines, if not that atleast heard of them or able to pronounce it?

  32. Homoeopathic means diluted with water to 1 part per billion….. which means it is NOT FUCKING PRESENT. Homoeopathy is just as much a lie as any other religion. So these drugs were not diluted, looks like they were concentrated. By the way, government shouldn't be allowed to prevent people from doing anything they want to themselves, using any drugs they want. It is not the role of government to protect individuals from themselves.

  33. It's 2CE… Not 2EC. And it IS FUN!! But it has nothing to do with homeopathy or alternative medicine nonsense. Taken in the right dose, 2CE is a VERY clean high compared to other psychedelics. Think the body high of LSD yet with softer visuals and being so clear headed that you know just how lit you really are!! If you've got the opportunity and are with someone who's familiar with the drug, do it!!!

  34. tyt being totally irresponsible. just because homeopaths took it does not mean it's a homeopathic and/or harmless drug…they need to look up the definition of, "homeopathic.". plus, saying it sounds "fun" when people suffered makes no sense and makes them additionally irresponsible..way too frequently it's hard to believe cenk is truly a father and i often pray ana is never allowed to raise children..really uncool and totally unprofessional.

  35. I believe in some alternative medicines for pains and aches, but if its something that could possibly be serious GO TO A DOCTOR!!

  36. Fucking right on…people are taking worse drugs than the illegal ones because like she said people are gonna do shit anyway,and man too many times it's some getting there hand on some bad dope and the die,happened to at least 3 young kids i know its crazy man,they went heavily into hard drugs they were experimenting and it got um man,its sad,they need to regulate the drugs and tax them,especially marijuana

  37. I've done 2c-e. I've actually done a whole lot of the 2c's along with a lot of research chemicals in general (2c-t-7, 2c-b, 2c-i, DOM, etc.) and I kind of have to agree that they should be illegal. Sure, if they were legal, we would know more about them, but I know that synthetic phenethylamines are pretty damn bad for you. Regardless, if they became legal, it would still be illegal to sell commercially, at least in my opinion, but the price of it would go up significantly. Right now, a decent dose of 2c-e tends to cost around 5 bucks, but some people will pay up to 20 if you don't know shit about research chemicals, but that's street value. Online its way cheaper. But if it became legal and more used, the price would significantly increase, and if you disagree, lsd was less than five bucks a tab in the 60's and 70's.
    I agree with Ana that drugs should be legal, but there should be a limit. Weed, dmt, shrooms, lsd, mescaline, salvia, dpt, ibogaine, and 5-meo-dmt (I'm probably forgetting some), should be legal. However, meth, heroin, cocaine, and (seriously) certain benzodiazapines (like xanax and klonopin, should be illegal because of their high risk of addiction, dependency, and death.
    As much as I adore synthetic phenethylamines, tryptamines, and lysergamides, they are definitely not safe, and I've experienced it first hand with mental problems and a perma trip that is only now fading.
    For anyone interested, yes 2c-e is similar to mdma and lsd (honestly closer to mescaline, but most people haven't tried that), and it really can be fun. As far as something that feels similar to acid and molly though, I'd recommend TMA-2.

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