B-Sides On-Air: Interview – The Vaccines Talk ‘Combat Sports’, Socio-political Obligations

B-Sides On-Air: Interview – The Vaccines Talk ‘Combat Sports’, Socio-political Obligations


Combat sports is the latest album from The Vaccines. We are joined by Justin and Freddie from the band. Welcome back to San Francisco howdy Great to see you guys. It’s been chatting off-camera about the our last interaction way back when when you’re first starting out in 2011 also on a sofa but Outside. Yeah Yeah, one of those rare moments in San Francisco where it’s warm one of those rare moments We get to sit on a sofa outside as well. Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking about your guys’s history You came out when social media was kind of in its nascent stage, right MySpace was basically it Starting still in school. Yeah. Yeah, and you were still in school. There was no snapchat. There’s no Instagram No, I’m kind of curious. What were you doing backstage? What were you doing before gigs? During the talking Good question, I mean we weren’t reading and I already know Carving stone. I don’t know sleeping Three albums in and now you have the new one in which a lot of people Turned around and said, wha what that is not English graffiti. That’s the vaccines That I knew that I grew up with. What have you right? and so that’s kind of what I understand was the approach of the music for this album right where it’s really I mean, I think the lesson learned from English refugee and for combat sports is that you can really have an intention a very specific intention for something but it might not necessarily actually end up there and whatever you try and do a Record kind of has a mind of its own so we definitely didn’t decide we want to get back in the room We want to do this We want to go back to these sounds we just thought we had to do right and yeah, you know I felt like for me it’s a case of like we’ve always been trying to figure out who the vaccines are and what the vaccines Do and you know? every record you make is sort of like react reaction reads the last record and I think that so you’re kind of constantly on this journey and like sometimes it takes you to a place that maybe retrospectively you kind of don’t want to be and so you kind of pull back or you you know, and so I Feel like combat sports came from you know, that it sort of came from the same place as English graffiti. It just took us somewhere different if that makes sense Yes, very liberating record combat sports because I feel like it just tied up so many loose ends of things that you know in that process that just instead of trying to discover who we are what we do like It’s so many kind of like full stops in that record And I think we would probably never make a record like that again. So it’s very liberating What happens after that for this particular album it took some time obviously you had a Departure from Pete of the band one of the founding members and so a lot of people are like scratching their heads Oh my god. What are they gonna do? Is he gonna go back to JJ? You know, what’s what’s gonna happen and so forth. Was there any thought of even veering into Socio-political type of themes in norbye. No Absolutely. No, I I think I’m I think there’s like a common misconception the common misconception In 2018 that it’s a responsibility of Artists or people with a platform to like speak out. I don’t think it’s a Responsibility, I think there’s an opportunity to do it. You have to remember that well Can we possibly forget that there are so many terrible things going on in the world and actually a lot of people my own You know connection with music is is is one of being able to forget you know to sort of like put all that to one side for a second and and be entertained and like strengthen and to have fun and like Not to be reminded. I said she’s like that I listen to music to forget and and there are plenty of people Who are a lot sort of better qualified and more passionate about us that? Writing great songs and paint and great paintings and whatever was lightened just doesn’t interest me at all. It’s really Like Justin says I could you know supposed to be like a blicket tree But I think you know like my personal views on it. Is that maybe? the best thing you can do to have influence in socio-political matters is being formed like instead of spending all your time like Shouting your opinion out maybe spend your time Really studying what that forming one in forming a forming an opinion like go inward study What what you believe what you think in and and I think from our perspective as individuals, you know We’re not really the best people to be The only mean if I was if I was if I yeah, I thought you know Who am I to say what’s right or wrong, I know what I feel I know where like my moral compass points I know what keeps me up at night. I know it makes me angry and what makes me sad and stuff, but but really I Don’t I’m not sure I know if I’m right Anyway, I think it like that’s all kind of to me. That’s all irrelevant I think the most important thing is is that music should be or music can be fun and entertaining and silly and empowering and all these other things doesn’t to be a Boys and doesn’t always have to be awakening, you know But that said I think anything that makes you go on your own kind of quest but knowledge About what’s going on and what you think is a really good thing Now that that everything is pretty much stabilized in terms of line up. You have the new album out do you think it’ll be a Shorter period of time in which new material will then? Yeah, I think Michaels I think so. We’re Inc We releasing something later this month, which is new. That isn’t. Oh c’mon sports. I think that’s the plan It’s funny. I was actually sort of Thinking about this last night, you know like I think often why it takes bands so long to Make a record is because they don’t know what kind of record they want to make or certainly in the case of the vaccines It’s always been that way but I but I think we kind of know what we want the next record sound like and And we kind of already have songs that kind of existed in that world I think we know how to get that and I don’t know it feels so far so good It feels pretty painless. Like we definitely don’t have an album written, but I think that I Would be disappointed and surprised if we had to wait sort of three years to kind of finish that Process and let the world hear it. Yeah Well, look forward to the new material like sure and show tonight and really appreciate your time to catch up with you guys again Justin and Freddie from The Vaccines combat sports their latest album you’re watching b-sides on air

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